another celebrity gets the boot on "dancing with the stars" and it ends with a grown man in tears. >> who, you? >> i cried. i had my money on him. meanwhile our slogan this hour comes to us from mike in tennessee. "fox & friends", "fox & friends" they're the best, heads and shoulders above the rest. >> nice. >> cue the roster and cue that man right there. come on over, stuart varney. he was just on the big hannity program live in the middle of the night and now he's here on the couch already. you must be hourly. >> it was a busy day for yesterday because lloyd didn't even come to testify until after 5:00 eastern standard time. >> those hearings were on for over 10 1/2 hours. >> what was your takeway? there was a lot of grilling and a lot of expletives? >> i thought that goldman was on trial in the court of public

opinion. it wasn't a legalistic setting. they wanted to make it that. it was the court of public opinion. demonized goldman, demonized wall street, show everybody it was wall street's fault, wall street created the panic of 2008 and the great recession of 2009. that's what they were trying to do, divert the attention from the politicians and their role in what had happened and the bottom line for me was it was a stalemate. it was a stand-off. they did not prove illegality on the part of goldman-sachs but they really roughed up their image and their ethics. >> the guy that came out swinging, these were two harvard law school graduates. senator levin and blankfein, the c.e.o. of goldman-sachs. levin was tough early in the morning but here's the exchange these two have and i think they were on different planets really. >> you've made a decision to

bet against -- to take the short side of a security that you're selling. and you don't think that there's any moral obligation here? put aside the legal obligation. you don't think there's an obligation to tell the person you're selling this to that you are betting against that security by maintaining a short position in it. it's a very straight forward concept. >> i don't think so. i'm trying to answer or for that matter, if a client came to us and asked us to buy something from him and we intended to hold the long position, i don't think we have an obligation of telling him what our contention is to hold it. >> and see, stuart, and seriously, you almost needed a translator to figure out what was going on there. but that kind of touched on what a lot of people thought and that was like, well, i put my money behind e.f. hutton or whoever the big bank is on wall street, they're looking out for me like bill o'reilly. we learned today not necessarily. >> well, what was -- look, is it

patriotic, is it ethical to bet against something? to bet that something is going to go down in price. >> they do it on wall street! >> precisely. you have both sides of the fence. you're betting that part of your company says this is a good investment. and a part of it says the other side of your business may be sort of hedging your position and saying it's a bad investment. >> really? is that really what was going on here? >> it happens -- this is constant. all the time. >> no doubt there was a conflict of interest. no doubt it might have been corrupt. no doubt it might have been unethical. my question for you and the rest of the american public is whether or not it's criminal. >> no, that's not criminal. >> but it's a wonderful setup, see, to try to pass financial reform. wonderful setup because as you mentioned at the beginning of the show, it shows that -- or at least they tried to show all the blame will go to the banks. >> look, supposing you're an airline and you're really worried about the price of the jet fuel because it's made an enormous difference to your business six months down the road. what do you do? you play the market in the

future for the price of jet fuel. you short it. you go long. you try to predict the price that you're gonna pay six months down the road. >> is that -- they really knew the housing market was going to take a tumble. that's the difference. >> that is the charge. that they stacked the deck against the investment that they were selling as a good investment. they knew it was a lousy investment. that is the charge. that would be fraud if that really did happen, that's fraud. they really laid a glove on them yesterday. >> they said look, there's only one executives that i could see that said they felt bad about what happened or responsible. the rest pretty much said no, i was doing my job. others said, people like you who know wall street inside and out and the average person like those senators that we saw, they said it was a disconnect. it was as if the congressional leaders really didn't understand what wall street does. and some of the questions were so far afield, they didn't even know how to answer. is that accurate? >> they didn't want to understand.

look, this is full of jargon. what is shorting? what is a derivative? i mean, it's just full of jargon. extremely difficult to understand unless you're on the inside but you make it look bad by demonizing the guys who have bet against the housing market. >> right. you used very colorf language that carl levin and they didn't cross the line. maybe the line needs to change. >> maybe so. that's what financial reform would supposedly do. >> what a perfect segue to the next item. you know, they voted on financial reform in the senate yesterday once again. they came up one vote short as well. ben nelson went over to the republican side, president of the united states barack obama addresses yesterday in the hometown of radar o'reilly. i'm talking about ottumwa, iowa. >> today, for the second time in 24 hours, senate republicans unanimously blocked efforts to even begin debating reform.

i'm not even asking them to vote for the bill. i want to let them debate it. you've learned these senate rules are complicated. so they won't even let it get on the floor. to be debated. it's one thing to oppose reform but to oppose just even talking about reform in front of the american people and having a legitimate debate, that's not right. the -- >> see, that's not a legitimate charge because they're negotiating behind doors. senator shelby and senator dodd are going after it shoulder to shoulder. bottom line is they say this 1400 bill is as complicated if not more complicated than health care bill. >> all true. all true. that's right. yes. and that they haven't got the votes yet but it's almost certain that they will get the votes because of all the pressure that is on the republicans to come in line. they want some changes to the bill as it now stands. >> some of the changes, stuart, tell me if this is right or wrong, republicans are discovering that this bill will

allow people to look into your own credit statements, your own credit history where they say oh weeks going to get into this and be able to look at institutions they're realizing that this new agency they're going to form can actually look at consumers so people are going to feel somewhat -- >> it's a half billion dollar a year research agency that will fit within this consumer financial protection agency and monitor everything that you invest in, not necessarily by a name. not brian is doing this, that or the other but whole groups and classes of people, what are they investing in? what's their background? that -- some people would say that's intrusive but if you really want to monitor what investors are doing and the risk that they are taking, you've got to have that kind of monitoring system. it's a stand-off. >> all right, stewart, you'll be the first one upstairs at the business unit. >> back at 7:30 to talk about the debt commission. >> i am indeed.

president barack obama heading to macon, missouri for day two of his white house to main street tour. he'll visit workers before heading to quincy, illinois. more than 1,000 protesters turning up at a tea party rally on the eve of the president's visit to missouri. >> when the american people, 65% say we don't want this and they go ahead and push it through behind locked doors and write a 2400 page bill that no one knows what's in there, something's wrong. >> president obama making the trip trying to sell his economic plans to the public. setting the oil on fire, coast guard considering doing just that today to the giant oil slick threatening to reach the gulf coast. 42,000 gallons flowing from the rig each and every day. right now, the slick is 80 miles long. experts say the spill could be a bigger threat than the exxon valdez mess. a man who had served as an air force intelligence officer responsible for causing a delta airlines flight to land in maine after he allegedly told flight attendants he had a bomb in his

luggage. the flight was headed from paris to atlanta when it was diverted to banger. reports say 26-year-old derek stansbury told officials he had a fake passport. no bombs were found and his passport ended up being real. mississippi governor haley barbour asking president obama to declare two areas in his state disaster areas. that's in the wake of all the tornadoes that left 10 people dead. hundreds of homes completely destroyed and a majority of those homeowners do not have insurance. the former bachelor star going home without a rose. after stumbling during his samba routine, jake gets the boot. i didn't know you were so disappointed, brian and steve. he got the boot from "dancing with the stars." >> i have loved every second of this. i love you. thank you for being so great to my beautiful fiancee. thank you, everybody, for watching and keeping me in.

>> saved a lot of money on buttons. >> i was going to say. >> what about a zipper? >> hello. excuse me, he can't look at the teleprompter. now i can. six teleprompters -- six c contestants. i'll tell you, i was looking at his -- >> erin andrews' poster -- her guy evidently got so angry at the -- at what the judge called him and reviewed his dance, he took his shirt off and threw it at him. >> really? >> you have all the latest gossip. >> it's just incredible. can you imagine being that angry that you take your shirt off? >> sure. listen, i think the president of the united states was a little steamed yesterday about what has happened down in arizona regarding new green card law, if there's some suspicion that you are in the country illegally, officers can ask you, hey, do you have papers? he addressed this yesterday at the town hall as well out in iowa. listen to what he had to say. >> make them register. make them pay a fine. make them learn english.

make them -- make them take responsibility for the fact that they broke the law. you make them get in the back of the line but you also say, ok, if you do it the right way, then you have a chance to become an american citizen and if we have that kind of comprehensive approach, then we can once again be a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. >> wait a minute, isn't it the fact that the federal government didn't do anything the reason that arizona stepped in? and hnow he has a bunch of idea. >> this is the ideas that have been floated around for the last decade or so. nothing has happened. in the meantime, a congressman from arizona is calling for major boycott to his own constituents. it's incomprehensible and he'll be on our show coming up because while he's against this immigration bill that he signed in arizona he's not considering

the other people that also lived in his district who may have jobs and may be hurt. i guess he's not going to be on our show. >> he says we are pulling on the organizations not to schedule conventions and conferences in arizona until they recognize the civil rights and due process. among the leaders who seem to be against this, jeb bush came out and says this is kind of dangerous. mit romney said look, i understand where you're coming from but you should be careful over in arizona where you're going here. and on top of that, janet napolitano says this new state law could siphon away federal money and staff needed to hunt down dangerous immigrants. essentially saying you're going to lose federal funding and eric holder is looking into suing the state to overturn this. >> the people of arizona were frustrated. i mean, they've got 460,000 illegals in the state. they think in the last two years, 100,000 have taken off because things have gotten tougher. will more leave? there are a lot of lawmakers who hope that that is indeed the case.

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denine barelli is a fox news contributor and a fellow with project 21. good morning to you. >> hi, good morning. >> you've had a lot of experience at the tea parties. you've been a guest speaker all across the country and you will continue to do so. what did you find from this study out of the university of washington? >> yeah, i found the study really to be filled with a lot of biased questions. and, you know, the media at this point will pick up on anything to discredit and marginalize the tea party movement so this is really a sign of things to come. there's going to be plenty more of polls like this and remember what they did with certain signs that people saw at the rallies. instead of focusing on what all the great people who were out there who were protesting and complaining and concerned about the direction of our country, so this poll clearly is just a sign of things to come with "newsweek" and other mainstream media outlets and you have to keep in mind that i think it was "time" magazine who had their year in pictures totally left out the tea party movement. >> interesting.

well, the data according to this study suggests that tea partiers are 25% more likely to be racially resentful than the rest of the population. what does that say to you? >> yeah, well, first of all, i know one of the questions was posed as to -- if blacks were to work harder, they would be more successful, to me, that's common sense. i don't see that as being biased or racist at all. >> the way they passioned what they questioned. >> 73% said that exactly what you just said. in this survey, 73% said if blacks would try harder, they could be just as well off as whites. >> everybody should strive to work hard. that's a no brainer. not a racist question at all. i worked hard to get to where i am today. i'm sure you have worked hard to get where you are today to be successful. why is that all of a sudden a racist question? >> they said blacks should work

their way up without special favors as italians and irish and other groups did, how do you respond to that? >> absolutely. what affirmative action did, that really increased resentment in our country and enabled individuals to, you know, maybe get ahead when they really did not deserve to get ahead and also alienated individuals who were qualified and did not fit into the so-called, you know, profile to be eligible for such programs. but clearly, you know, perseverance, hard work, determination, those are the characteristics to really get ahead and be successful in our country. and for individuals to be painting the tea party movement as racist is utterly ridiculous. you look at me, i'm a happy black female to be involved in the tea party movement. i'm so glad that the movement is here and it's making a difference. >> all right. always good to see you with project 21 and a fox news contributor. >> thanks. >> coming up on the show, the student accused of hacking into sarah palin's e-mail expected to learn his fate today. he said it was a harmless prank.

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>> welcome back. the deliberations resume today in the case of a college student accused of hacking into governor sarah palin's e-mail account while she was running for vice president back in 2008. everyone's walking except us. david kernell pled not guilty to several charges including identity theft, wire fraud and obstructing an f.b.i. investigation. if convicted, he could be potentially facing 50 years in prison. the verdict may come down today. what should we expect? why the delay? we're joined right now by fox news legal analyst lies will. does that surprise you?

>> it does a little bit. this is pretty much a slam dunk case, it is. he blamed sarah palin as the victim saying she was too stupid to get a good access, you know, a good authorized access, it was too easy for him to get in which is a crazy defense, by the way. so i would have thought the jury would have come back fairly quickly. on the other hand, everyone knows this is a huge case. a lot of the eyes of the country if not of the world are on this case. they're not going to come back that quickly. >> this kid is the son of a democrat lawmaker in the city. what he did is figured out her yahoo e-mail account information, hacked into it and then took screen shots of everything. posted them on line. suddenly you have all her contacts -- >> and her cell phone and texting in all of that. her daughter was involved in this, too. other people started to text her daughter. that scared her daughter. she was out in alaska by herself while mom and dad were, you know, campaigning. so there was some damage to it. but a couple of things --

>> 50 years is what he could be on the hook for. >> 50 years is the max that's, you know, written on the books. he's not going to get 50 years. a couple of things will be really important. let's assume the jury comes back today with a guilty verdict. will he apologize because he didn't take the stand during the trial. will he now say -- >> would that help? >> absolutely. will he apologize and say i screwed up, i'm sorry and i shouldn't have blamed sarah palin, first of all and second of all, how is sarah palin going to react? is she going to say look, stupid kid. i was hurt at the time but let's move on. >> does this bring up a bigger issue that the courts aren't equipped or ready to deal with cyber crime. >> absolutely. we're starting to see these cases now. you remember the case a year ago about the mother who in the megan case who was on the computer and said she was a boyfriend of this poor girl. anyway, she was tried and it was very, very complicated trial because we don't really know how to deal with these cases yet. they don't fit into a neat category. >> and who is this guy's lawyer for crying outloud? >> because he's a genius.

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>> let me tell you something, there was so much cursing going on, i was beginning to accept it. i realized i was watching television. >> that can explain the headline in "the new york post" today. sachs of [beep]. it was pretty interesting. some people may have thought have i wandered over to hbo rather than the fox newschannel or c span. or howard stern. >> it was amazing, too, senator mccaskel, about this stock, do you describe as this and went back and forth over and over. they were quoting an actual e-mail that they were using as testimony. you know, they could have edited to sweeten it up a little bit. i think they were trying to make a point that this is how they work on wall street. >> exactly. exactly. one of the best articles written about the whole thing, you alluded to the fact earlier that both senator levin and lloyd blankfein, the c.e.o. of goldman, they went to harvard law school but this article says they hardly speak the same language. no doubt.

store senator levin, how many times did he say that word? >> 11. >> here is -- i almost want to say hank paulson. here is -- >> lloyd blankfein, isn't it? >> i think it's just blankfein. >> all right. let's take a look. >> what do you think about selling securities which your own people think are crap. does that bother you? >> i think they would, again, as a hypothetical? >> no, this is real. we heard it today. >> we heard it today. this is crap. >> once again, just quoting but funny. >> what they said after -- >> was this fund was in -- they read in june 22nd, i believe it was, that this guy said yeah, this fund which was timberland was going bad, performing badly and then in the same e-mail, it

said push it as hard as you can and they sold it through the summer and they sold it and lost 80% of its value and the question for the layman on the outside and in this case senator levin was why would you do that? >> that's why it was somewhat disingenuous when blankfein was testifying and saying they weren't smart enough to know wall street was going to crumble. >> the fabulous fab. >> his testimony was that he could smell it was going south so they bet against it so what america got a good -- there's fabulous fab right there. >> my prediction will be he's on "dancing with the stars" next year. >> not as a dancer, but a judge. >> without buttons you'll see his cleavage. >> he can hold up a carl levin sign and say that dance was [beep]. maybe not. let's give you headlines for this wednesday. more safety violations at massey energy mine, the company that

owns the west virginia mine where 29 workers were killed not long ago. three of the mines were evacuated after surprise inspections turned up safety violations. during hearings yesterday, federal officials said they'll go to court to shut down the mines that ignore the safety of their workers. osama bin laden surprised according to one of his former associates that the terror leader had no idea america would retaliate so strongly after september 11th. he never expected the world trade towers to fall so he really didn't plan for the massive response we launched. actually, his son's book says a very similar thing. gretche gretchen? >> the florida governor expected to announce tomorrow he's going to run for the u.s. senate he's finally going to say it as an independent. polls say he could lose the primaries to marco rubio but in the general election, he would beat rubio and the likely democrat nominee. he has alienated conservative republicans, some say, for

supporting the stimulus. >> splitting the ticket. meanwhile, teachers in new jersey will wind up teaching today. it was a much different scene yesterday. look at those pictures. thousands of students walked out of school to protest planned budget cuts by governor chris christie. >> you know, extracurricular activities that keeps us busy and keeps us off the streets and stuff, now without them, lord knows what happens now. >> we stand up for our rights. we're tired of having to depend on somebody else. >> not all students believe skipping school is a good way to protest cuts in education and tomorrow, we will talk to one of those students right here on "fox & friends." by the way, new jersey has the highest property taxes in the united states of america. >> police are calling him the toilet paper bandit. you can see why a man wrapped his face in it and holds up a convenience store. it happened in lincoln, nebraska. a woman tried to enter the store and he locked the door and shook

his head no. they scoured the block looking for him but only found a few pieces of toilet paper. >> the mr. whipple case. brian, let's talk playoffs. >> every once and a while, you have to lean on an intern when things are tough. you feel overworked. this is one of those times. do you mind if i go to the bull pen? >> if you must. >> kelly marks, it's your last day, is that correct? >> yes. >> kelly, you would go to the college of mount st. vincent, is that correct? >> yes, i do. >> you play lacrosse. nothing but lacrosse highlights coming your way. let's start with -- >> yes, i did. >> did you enjoy your stay here? you learned a lot? >> uh-huh. >> later you'll put it in essay form and give it to steve doocey. tell us what's happening in basketball. >> for the nba playoffs, lakers looking to avoid going down 3-2 to the eighth seeded thunder. to los angeles where it was the ron artest show. artest had 14 points, five rebounds and two blocks. lakers won easily, 111-87. now they can wrap up the series friday night. here are the rest of your nba playoff scores.

the celtics oust the heat, 96-86 and the cavs do the same to the bulls with a score of 96-94. the mavz stay alive with a route of the spurs and san antonio leads the series. he breaks the number one rule of conduct. never, ever touch an umpire. navarro did and is being suspended for two games in major league baseball. he was ejected by plate umpire during the sixth inning of friday's game against toronto for arguing balls and strikes. he says he will not appeal. >> what do you get when you combine a crazy milwaukee bucks mascot, a 15 foot ladder and a 10 foot basket? this incredible dunk. it all happened during the bucks game four win over atlanta. the mascot's name is bango and this is his first time trying it out during a game. >> bango was bingo. >> how he practiced such a stunt without killing himself is still a mystery. the bucks went on to beat the

hawks to tie the series at 2-2 games. game five is tonight. >> kelly, great job. fantastic. best of luck! and kelly is a lacrosse player. my daughters both decided yesterday they wanted to play lacrosse. would you hacksaw their shaft to the proper length which i believe should be the size of your -- the length of your arm. would you do that for me? >> oh, i can't. >> you can't? >> i can get somebody to do it for you. >> oh! >> kelly, thank you very much for everything you've done. a round of applause for kelly, guys. >> thank you. >> good job. >> brian, back over to you. let's talk about something that's going to be big on the oprah winfrey show coming up this thursday. rhielle hunter in her first television interview, you know her as the mistress of john edwards who once a time ago was going to run for president. and that is their child right there that he had finally admitted to fathering. >> child is now 2. >> exactly. >> so she's going to tell all. in fact, she's going to tell why

john edwards decided to tell all. >> everyone he was close to, who knew all the facts and knew the truth said please, don't do that interview. please don't do that interview. elizabeth really wanted him to do that interview. she wanted him to say, you know, you got to get out in front of it. you got to say the truth and speak the truth. and she didn't know the truth. and so he's like you can't do the interview and not speak the whole truth. >> you said she didn't know the truth. she knew there was the affair. she -- >> she didn't know until after the interview. he came clean with her after that interview. >> well, wow! >> yeah. >> no kidding. that interview takes place in rielle hunter's living room in charlotte. oprah went down. i think that's probably the same house posed for, what was it, "esquire" magazine. >> here's another snippett. here's oprah on why rielle did the interview with her. >> i think she's speaking out

now because she wants to tell her own truth. she feels that she's been portrayed in erroneous ways. she feels that the image that most people have of her is not accurate. and i think that every single person in her life, she says, told her including john edwards, told her not to do this interview. but she is a person who is guided by what she feels and feels deeply and she felt very strongly that she would get a sense of release by speaking her own truth. >> you got to wonder when john edwards is coming out. on top of that, as usual, you saw diane sawyer and barbara walters both vying for the interview. oprah getting it. to tell you the truth, i don't know how many people really are that concerned. i think it's a big get but after a few minutes, you think to yourself, who cares? who cares about john edwards? who cares about her? >> for a while, brian, he was so close -- i mean, up in iowa, and in the early primary stages,

this was one of the bright stars. he was one of the guys who really had a shot but this was all going on behind the scenes. >> all right, so another snipett from oprah about what surprised her most about this interview. >> she doesn't think that she's a home wrecker. doesn't think of herself as a home wrecker and does not think that she played a key role in breaking up the edwards marriage. >> not a home wrecker. all right. you'll have to watch oprah. it's going to be tomorrow wherever oprah runs in your tv market. >> all right. 19 minutes before the top of the hour. a war of words over immigration. now front and center. should there be a path to citizenship or should the government lock the doors, force them out? both sides of the aisle join us for a fair and balanced debate. then -- >> setback for bret michaels, the very latest on the rocker's medical condition. >> donald trump will be joining us. >> right. what happens when your house accidentally gets demolished. we'll explain.

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>> the latest now on the health of that man, rocker bret michaels. his representative saying the 47-year-old encountering a setback involving a side effect that leads to seizures. "entertainment tonight" reporting that michaels will soon undergo surgery. the former front man for poison remains in i.c.u. in 24 hour a day observation after suffering a brain hemorrhage last thursday. he's said to be in critical but stable condition. this wrecked house is not because of an earthquake although it looks like it and it's not the fault of a tornado. and vandals aren't responsible. it was wrecked by a demolition crew by mistake. the demolition crew was supposed to take down the house across the street! the owner, francis howard is

living with her son. now she's got no place to live. >> thank you, steve. should they stay or should they go? a new arizona law on illegal immigration sparking national debate and members of congress are asking themselves, what's the best solution? to deal with the nearly 12 million illegals or more living in the u.s.? should there be a path to citizenship or should the government lock the doors and force them out? with us now, illinois congressman luis guiterrez and california congressman gary miller. good morning to you, gentlemen. >> good morning. >> congressman, i know you disagee with the bill that was signed on friday in arizona. what would be your plan? what should we do with the more than 400,000 illegals in the state of arizona? >> here's what i think we should do. i think we should deal with immigration in a comprehensive manner. there are those that would hope that you can pass laws like the one in arizona and the undocumented community would simply disappear. it's not going to happen. the fact is that they play very key roles in certain sectors of our economy.

they're not going to uproot -- there are four million american citizens, children who their citizens are undocumented. they have long standing roots, many in these communities. what i say is look at arizona. we went from in 2002, we had about 10,000 border patrol agents. today we have 20,000. we've reduced it from about 1.6 million illegal crossings to about 600,000. but until you deal with the magnet of employment here in the united states and eliminate that, i think you're going to continue to see people coming to this country. >> do you agree with that? is it about coming here for jobs? >> well, that sounds nice but the bill he introduced makes everybody here as of december legal in this country. it prohibits the 286 program which allows local law enforcement to work with the federal government as arizona is trying to do, this bill prohibits that from happening in the future. we as a system called e verify in this country and i agree with him when he said, e verify says when you're hiring somebody, you verify that they're here

legally. his bill prohibits the use of that system. if his bill goes into law, virtually the 8 million people working this this country will be illegal. you have 15 million people in this country that are unemployed. how do you justify having 15 million people unemployed in this country and eight million illegals in this country taking those jobs. it doesn't work. >> what about the cost? because is that not why a state like arizona finally has to clamp down, because the federal government isn't doing anything about illegal immigration? and the states cannot keep up with the overflowing costs in the public schools and in the emergency rooms. >> look, gretchen, we need to deal with this to simply say we're going to pass laws and they're going to disappear isn't going to work. didn't work yesterday. isn't going to work today and i think he mischaracterize my bill. we have very, very clear in our legislation so that everyone in this country would have to get some kind of biometric card. we do have an expansive e verify

system and we have seamless deportation from the united states if you engage in any criminal activity. so what we do is we say to the employer, you're going to jail if you hire illegals. >> right. >> and moreover, we're going to make sure that you can't hire them because everybody is going to have the vote -- >> i have to get congressman miller back in here. congressman miller, are any of those laws being enforced? is that why arizona felt like they had to take it in their own hands? >> we're not enforcing the laws and his bill does nothing to create new laws. we don't enforce the ones in the books today. one thing he's saying is correct. there will be no illegals in this country because we're going to legalize all of them based on his bill. if you just do public service or any type of support service for your church, you qualify for a green card and if you're in the ag industry, you qualify for a blue card. virtually what we're saying is there will be no illegals in this country. everybody who is here will be legal. >> all right, congressmen, on either side of the fence of this one. no pun intended. thanks for being our guests today.

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>> all right. the city council in new york wants to revitalize in their words a town with a brand new supermarket. that means taking away our next guest's real estate business. jay overlender is the co-owner of a strip of buildings in hemstead. he thinks the city council is going way too far. good morning. >> good morning. >> the city says this is in a blighted area and we want to blow it up. take away those little shops and we want to put up a grocery

store and they want to take your land from you. >> absolutely. well, i mean, first of all, they -- they very discreetly with the help of a few of the civic organizations and really led by the councilman met in closed door meetings that they said were public, unbeknownst to any of the landlords and said, hey, the area is blighted. let's run a blight study on it. >> that doesn't look blighted to me. i understand some people in the area say the only thing that's blighted is the parking lot and the parking lot is owned by the town of hemstead. >> that's right. the properties are not blighted. there's 100%. there's no vacancy at all. 100% in the property, we have viable businesses running there and unfortunately, one of the reasons a property can be blighted is because it is not the best use. i argue is anything the best use? >> right, do you think, you know, they want to build a grocery store and a supermarket in that -- along where your property is right there. although it doesn't sound like

they have a developer or doesn't sound like they have a grocery store in mind and stuff like that. do you worry that the town that's trying to evict you is in bed with, you know, the people who want to build the grocery store there? >> well, i wonder, a, if it will ever even be a grocery store because there's been rumors and now they're talking about changing certain zoning to make it other things and there's always this rumor that a casino is coming to the race track across the street. >> it has to break your heart, though, as a guy who has lived in that region for a very long time, you know, you've put your blood, sweat and tears into that property and the government says, we're going to take your land and we're going to build something whether you like it or not. >> well, it's interesting because not only do i own the property, my brokerage, leapfrog realty, operates out of the property. ok? so my own company is actually there at the property. >> is what they're doing, jay, unamerican? >> absolutely unamerican.

i mean, we were at a town council meeting and the gentleman to my left who owns an empty lot had put in plans architectural plans to build a strip of stores. brand new. just like my building here is brand new. >> uh-huh. >> they told him no, because we have to see what's going to happen with the eminent domain. but they didn't stop charging him taxes. >> of course not. >> is now he is knee deep in the red so he came before the town council and said, i didn't think this could happen in america. i know it happened in my china. but i couldn't expect it to happen here. so we're turning like china? that's a scary thought. >> it is indeed. all right, jay, thank you very much. thanks for coming in today to tell your story. >> thank you. >> cautionary tale. >> good luck to you. >> straight ahead, you probably won't see this story on a lot of other tv networks. protests over the arizona immigration law are getting ugly in illinois. then, you know those securities and exchange commission workers caught watching porn all day at work? remember how they were told heads would roll? guess what, they're not.

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>> good morning, everyone. wednesday, april 28, 2010. thanks for sharing your time today. goldman-sachs goes to washington and finds itself on the receiving end of what some said was an r-rated rant. >> how about the fact that you sold hundreds of millions of that deal after your people knew it was a [beep] deal. does that bother you at all? >> did lawmakers get anywhere or was it all about grandstanding? >> i learned a few words yesterday in watching. hey, the president is bashing arizona's tough new immigration law. >> now, suddenly, if you don't have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you're gonna be harassed. that's something that could potentially happen. >> but is such a scenario

accurate? do kids really like ice cream? we report, you decide. >> most kids don't like ice cream, brian. >> many. >> don't mess with texas or governor rick perry shoots and kills while out for a jog. we got to tell you all about that and that is coming up shortly. meanwhile, our slogan this hour comes from jim in texas. if i were a rooster, how happy i would be to crow up about "fox & friends" on the couch in studio e! >> you're watching "fox & friends"! that's a great way to begin your day. >> the rooster right there. >> thank goodness. welcome aboard. >> waking us up on a wednesday. we have a huge day for you today besides talking a lot about what happened on capitol hill yesterday. look at this guest list coming up today. >> molly ringwald joins our breakfast club. travis stork is here. >> the doctor is in. >> separately from kristen bell and donald trump will be joining us all from the big wall to the big circular couch. >> interesting to get the

trumpster's viewpoint of what was happening on capitol hill yesterday. he is mr. new york by many accounts. he's made a lot of money here. what does he think about all the testimony yesterday with goldman-sachs. did you catch any of it? because it was a little salty. if you had kids in the room, you either had to bleep it out yourself or you had to turn down the television. >> if you had kids in the room, that means your child likes c-span which means you have a very special child. that means you sat there -- >> if they were paying attention. >> or they're being punished. 11 hours, that's true. i think they went in and out a little. they went for 11 hours. if you saw the size of the binder next to those testifying there, 900 pages! >> sure. >> senator levin will be like you said this, what are you talking about? what page is that? 580? ok. and what did you mean by that? >> i'm not sure what i even meant then. >> goldman was on the griddle for almost 11 hours yesterday and if you didn't see it, we've got some snipetts.

here essentially is what it is. the guys on capitol hill are steamed that big banks like goldman led us down the read to ruin financially during the big recession of 2008. goldman says we didn't do anything illegal. we know where the line is. we never crossed it. but some people on capitol hill feel maybe it's time to move the line. here's carl levin and lloyd blankfein, the guy who runs goldman-sachs shaking it up a little bit yesterday. >> you've made a decision to bet against, to take the short side of a security that you're selling. and you don't think that there's any moral obligation here? put aside the legal obligation. you don't think there's an obligation to tell the person that you're selling this to that you are betting against that security by maintaining a short position in it? it's a very straight forward question. >> i don't think so. i'm trying to answer it or for that matter, if a client came to us and asked us to buy something

from him and we intended to hold the long position, i don't think we have an obligation of telling him what our intention is to hold it. >> well, you know, almost no one took responsibility for it. and maybe goldman-sachs ultimately doesn't. i'll tell you what, they weren't actually a prohibitor of the meltdown that we saw on wall street. senator pryor asked mike swenson what about your responsibility for meltdown? he said i never thought about that. how interesting, it never came up. at all the cocktail parties you went to, it never came up. others said i don't regret anything i did said that gentleman, mr. sparks. there was a vice president that says my role -- i do feel bad for any role i may have played in it but no one is really saying they're culpable. i think also for legal reasons. if you're going to sit there on capitol hill, you're sworn in. >> they made it clear, they never broke the law. >> most important thing is how the american public sees this. because let's face it, unless you live in new york city, a lot of people don't even -- have never even heard of goldman-sachs, ok? all they care about or all they want to know about is why do those wall street guys and gals

keep making so much money when the rest of us aren't? why is there 10% unemployment and they're talking about handing out million dollars times many more millions in bonuses? that's what the american people are concerned about. and that's why members of congress were very smart in their way of simplifying this because they were talking simple language while the guys from goldman were talking all this number nonsense and i think the american public on this one is going to side with the members of congress. >> here is some of the outtakes, ok, it was actually primetime. there was no outtakes. when i saw this, there was actually no bleep. i've forgotten because i was flipping around so much. we were doing the radio show and i'm trying to find out what was going on and all of a sudden, i thought to myself have i just tuned into some r-rated movie? listen to some of the expletives as senator levin reads from an e-mail. >> what do you think about selling securities which your own people think are crap, does

that bother you? >> i think they would -- again, as a hypothetical? >> no, this is real. we heard it today. >> well -- >> we heard it today much this is a [beep] deal. this is crap. >> we did hear the s bomb as carl levin inaugurated it. curse and crass words, 37 times. the f bomb itself, 11 times. if you sat down and listened for more than about 30 seconds of the goldman-sachs testimony, your eyes would glaze over because you would need a translator. they were talking about stuff we didn't know. they were very passive in their demeanor on the goldman side and so the other side, you've got the guys from wall street and they are frustrated and you could see that in the questioning and you could see that in their face. one thing that it did do is framed very neatly for the obama administration, you see all the anger up on capitol hill. we've got to do something about the financial services industry. the president of the united states was on a road show

yesterday. he was in ottumwa, iowa, making the case to push for financial reformali reformali reform although those pesky republicans are standing in my way. >> today, senate republicans unanimously blocked efforts to debate reform. i'm not asking them to vote for the bill. i want to let them debate it and you know, you've learned these senate rules are complicated so they won't even let it get on the floor! to be debated. it's one thing to oppose reform but to oppose just even talking about reform in front of the american people and having a legitimate debate, that's not right. >> oh, there's debate. >> little disingenuous in a sense because they are debating it. you have dick shelby on the republican side and chris dodd on the democratic side and they are supposedly meeting behind closed doors trying to hammer this thing out so it's a little disingenuous to say that both

sides are not trying to talk financial reform. i also think -- if you don't think all of this was timed at the same time to talk about financial reform and to bring goldman-sachs in front of all those members of congress, i think this was all timed to the president's benefit. >> i will say this, this is disingenuous, not all republicans. senator ben nelson what seems to be for warren buffet where he owes a whole bunch of shares. warren buffet is upset on the legislation because it cracks down on derivatives where he makes millions upon millions of dollars so it looks like senator ben nelson is standing up for the power behind, well, his investment as well as warren buffet himself in nebraska so you can't just say republicans are standing in the way and for those who think this is a layup, i see senator corker says we are very, very, very far away from a deal. and he's a republican. >> ok, so, you know, right now, washington is working on financial reform but the president would like to do something about immigration and now, you've got this thing going on down in arizona, the green card law where if you don't have a green card, you can get in big

trouble. the president thinks this is a very bad idea. here he is yesterday as well. >> make them register, make them pay a fine. make them learn english. make them -- make them take responsibility for the fact that they broke the law. you make them get in the back of the line, but you also say, ok, if you do it the right way, then you have a chance to become an american citizen. and if we have that kind of -- if we have that kind of comprehensive approach, then we can once again be a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. >> we have laws, let's just enforce them all. >> they've been talking about all that for a really long time and nothing ever has happened. sarah palin was on sean hannity's program last night responding to the president. >> this is a reasonable law, again, this is a wake-up call to the feds telling them it is the feds' responsibility, it is the

federal government's right and responsibility to secure our borders. this is a national security issue. and jan brewer did what she had to do to wake them up and tell them they need to start doing their jobs. >> now they're talking about boycotts of arizona, they're talking telling the people of mexico don't go to arizona on vacation. >> san francisco has banned their workers from going to the state of arizona. >> telling people don't bring your conventions to arizona and five, they say, according to the bureau of tourism there have canceled. >> they don't like it in chicago. they had a protest there as well where a bunch of people got arrested. they thought they were stopping a van that was going to deport a bunch of people. turns out it was a van headed to a jail with a bunch of criminals in it. a bunch of people got arrested. >> couple of quick headlines for you. the coast guard thinking about setting that oil spill in the gulf on fire. it's worked before to clean up the spill. thousands of gallons a day flowing from that well that blew up and burned. the week do take months to cap leaping leading the coast guard to wonder if this could be worse

than the exxon valdez. new video into "fox & friends" after a massive fire at a marina in virginia. it's destroyed three boats and damaged four others. people nearby say they heard some sort of explosion and saw the boats go up in flames. so far, no one reported hurt. you know the securities and exchange commission employees caught using government computers to view that porn? none of them fired. 28 employees under investigation. eight left on their own and the rest were either suspended, reprimanded or given a warning. governor of mississippi waiting to hear if he'll get a federal disaster declaration for the counties wrecked by those deadly tornadoes. the declaration would free up federal funds making it easier for people to rebuild their homes and their businesses because many of them did not have insurance. don't mess with texas or its governor rick perry. while jogging with his daughter's puppy near his home in austin, he was confronted by a coyote. when perry jogs alone, he carries a handgun with a laser sight and this time it came in handy when it came clear the

coyote was going to charge, perry dropped it with one shot. those are your headlines. >> wow. that's -- >> quite a story. >> all the way in texas. >> how do you run with a gun, i have a hard time runing with an i pod. i strap it to my arm because it's distracting. >> holster, i think. >> straight ahead on this wednesday, coming up, is goldman-sachs guilty of anything criminal or were bankers just following the motto that greed is good? how very gordon gecoish of that. >> by the way, there's a sequel to that coming out. shocking details revealed in laura bush's new book. did somebody try to poison the president? >> what? >> "fox & friends" will be right back. wow! that's a low price! i'm sorry. did you say something about a low price?

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>> exotic and complex financial structures help spread toxic mortgages throughout the financial system. and when the system finally

collapsed, under the weight of those toxic mortgages, goldman profited from the collapse. >> they had it right. or did they? goldman-sachs execs took a verbal lashing and bashing during yesterday's senate hearing. did anything criminal actually happen? were the bankers just brazen, greedy and just playing by the rules and winning. let's bring in that panel and meet him first. screenwriter and novelist andrew clavin is here. >> how are you doing? > >> penny is playing the middle square, former advisor to harry reid. hi, penny. >> hello. >> richard is here, professor of economic expert and author "the great reset. "what did you walk away with the testimony yesterday? >> to me, this is pure political theater. i look at this and think they're putting these admittedly unattractive wall street fat cats on trial and we're supposed to show up like the mob in the frankenstein movie and give us the monster. why isn't the monster tim geitner who bailed him out.

why isn't the monster barack obama who took a million bucks from him. four of the panelists from the investigating committee took a lot of money from goldman-sachs. these guys are all pulled together and goldman-sachs is supporting the reform this is supposed to push so it's really too me -- >> we're out of time. send it to you and you bought up the other people that are culpable. senator levin about fannie and freddie said it's an american symbol of financial success in housing. why isn't he culpable? >> there are a lot of victims and there are a lot ofville w v and we can put the blame on a lot of people. there is unbridled greed, it had it for the last couple of years for that matter. there is a lot of blame to go around but we need to have it fixed and need to get back to having the financial reform debateed on the floor of the senate and have it passed. we need to hold them accountable. >> nobody watched for 11 hours. i watched a lot of it.

but richard in the big picture, we didn't see any apologies and didn't say i was at the trough or regrets. they said hey, i lost $1.2 billion as well. >> political theater, unbridled greed and no fix. that's the problem we face. we have to fix these things. our congress, nobody likes it. now, nobody likes the banks. all these institutions are losing credibility. the big fix has to be around housing and housing finance. we can talk about too big to fail or this one or that one. if we don't fix the housing finance system and get the mortgage thing fixed we won't right our economy. >> that brings us to the political part of it. does this help, democrats and republicans when it comes to getting some kind of financial reform. >> right now, you know, unfortunately, we're in a little bit of a situation that right now would hold republicans -- republicans are saying we're going to hold the democrats accountable for a better bill. democrats are saying republicans are being friends to wall street, too cozy. >> what do you think sf>> we need to get it done. both sides need to come together on the table and get something passed. >> does this help it? >> yes. >> stay right there.

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>> i know you've been talking about this. the federal government is now considering challenging arizona's new immigration law on the grounds it violates civil liberties but some say it was the federal government's lack of action that led to the legislation. we're back with our panel, andrew, penny lee and richard.

andrew, they say that giving police officers in arizona the ability to go up to an individual under a reasonable -- if they have reasonable cause to think they're here in this country illegally, what is wrong with that? >> first of all, it's plainly not true. all arizona has said to the federal government, thanks for nothing, we'll take care of it ourselves. to argue that it could possibly cause some kind of racial problems is ridiculous. police carry guns that could possibly cause them to shoot somebody but they won't. >> right. reasonable suspicion of being here illegally. if you're in arizona and you saw 440 million people and 440,000 people in your midst that don't belong here, is there anything wrong with that, penny? >> i understand it, i don't live in arizona so not living with it day to day. let's see what the application is. >> what do you mean by that? >> to see is this going to be an invitation for racial profiling, is this going to be a violation of their civil liberties. it is going to be in the application what people are worried about. autoi

>> it is the drugs that are coming across the border and can you blame the people of arizona for giving cops this power? >> people of arizona are angry. they're angry because their economy has tanked, housing market has fallen apart and their government is group. it's a mistake to blame immigrants much the thing that's made america great is the ability to absorb immigrants especially in times of crisis. >> able to absorb illegal? >> we made mistakes in the past. we let them cross the border. i think it's a mistake to single them out and send them back. if they cause a crime and arrested, yeah, send them back. it looks bad for image internationally and makes us unable to attract the best and brightest, the scientists and entrepreneurs that we need to build our economy say they're not coming to the states. >> saudi arabia, you cross into that country, you get in jail. in iran, you're detained indefinitely. in cuba, you're tossed into jail. what we're saying is get out, stay out. >> i don't think scientists and physicists are coming over the mexican border into arizona. 440,000 people is the city of st. louis basically has moved from mexico into arizona

illegally. they've broken our laws. there's absolutely no reason, first, to shut the border before we have any conversation about what to do with the people who are already there. >> penny on top of that, the numbers have dropped recently, 18% over the last couple of years of people coming across the border but the amount of drugs has grown. if you're a family in that area, can you blame officials for giving them the power to keep you safe? >> no, i mean, again, i agree. what they're trying to do at the homeland security is stop that southern flow. stop the drugs, the guns and the money. and the money. yes, coming back. >> border guards -- >> since 2004, 80% more people on the ground are on that border. is there more work to be done? absolutely, every day, more work is to be done. you have secretary napolitano on this as a former governor herself who is trying to do everything she can to secure that border. >> funny because the current governor can't get a call back from the federal government. she's frustrated. >> cuba, iran, saudi arabia,

are those the countries we want to emulate. you said, they're not skilled people and not the skilled entrepreneurs that we want to attract. those high skilled entrepreneurs, i've interviewed them, they look at how we handle low skilled people. they look at how we handle illegals. if we kick them out, they say we don't want to come. >> you have any surgeons in the tunnels by the border. those -- >> were founded by a new immigrant. >> new who signed in. >> absolutely. >> i'm not worried about the guy signing in. i'm worried about the ones sneaking in. >> good job. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> if we had a post-game show, this started now, we'd start it right now. let's go to gretchen and steve who are doing something very important. >> that was a really interesting panel. >> shake and bake. >> thanks, brian. is the president's debt commission really just a front for more taxation? stu varney is making a return visit to "fox & friends" this morning. he has the answer coming up. >> did somebody try to poison george and laura bush? the happy couple right there walking away from the chopper? that's one revelation in an explosive new book coming out soon by the former first lady.

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>> after meeting with his commission today, president obama said that it's a lot easier to spend a dollar than it is to save one.

even the deficit commission was like, who invited grandpa? >> funny, jimmy, funny. all right. we're going to talk to stuart promptly. remember when the president promised not to raise taxes on those making under $250,000? do you remember that? >> how many people here make less a quarter million dollars a year? all of you who raised your hand making less than a quarter million dollars a year, you will not see your taxes increase one single dime. >> not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains tax. no taxes. i will not raise taxes for anybody making under $250,000 a year. we can't raise taxes on the middle class during this economy. >> you get the idea. i think we have even more. >> and the president says holding him to that is an old washington game. this is what he said yesterday. listen. >> of course, this means all of you our friends in the media will ask me and others once a

week or once a day about what we're willing to rule out or rule in when it comes to the recommendations of the commission. that's an old washington game. and it's one that has made it all but impossible in the past for people to sit down and have an honest discussion about putting our country on a more secure fiscal footing. so i want to deliver this message today. we're not playing that game. i'm not going to say what's in, i'm not going to say what's out. >> we want to know, if milton bradley doesn't want to coin this. we want to know what's happened. >> the new highly anticipated gift. >> is it a way to shield the president from his own promises? stuart varney joins us. >> yes. >> he was emphatic, he was positive. read my lips, no new taxes under a quarter of a million dollars and he's saying, well, maybe. >> no, he's saying it won't be me that does it. it will be that commission that i just appointed much that's how you do it.

there is an in-built bias towards raising taxes on the part of this commission. there are 10 democrats. there are eight republicans. they are charged with somehow or other getting that deficit down. now, do you really think they're going to recommend tax cuts as a way of stimulating the economy and stimulating revenue? come on! >> should we get real? come on. there's an in-built bias towards raising taxes. raising government revenue, any which way you can do it. >> are those eight republicans going to sit like bumps on a log in these meeting? >> no, they may be the side of the equation that says we need some spending cuts or cuts in entitlements. that's the -- that will be the lopsided -- >> the ying and the yang. >> that's what it will be. >> it reminds me of the iraqi survey group, study group that came out and they had conclusions, they had republicans and democrats on both sides and i'm relatively optimistic, perhaps, stuart, they'll come out with some legitimate fixes for our economy. >> look, the big deal here is fixing entitlements, medicare and medicaid and social

security. social security is not really an entitlement. >> this gives him cover to tdo that. >> precisely. i think they'll raise the retirement age some way down the road so the current crop of politicians don't take the blame. >> look at how good we look. >> we should raise the entitlement age. >> indirect compliment to me. >> in a way? >> i'll roll the tape back and see what i missed. >> you may see some wealth redistribution within the programs. you'll means test medicare so the rich people don't get it. >> it was such an emphatic and clear campaign promise and he may be able to say, you know, look, the debt commission told me i'm going to have to do this so the american people will remember. i mean, if -- if the taxes go up because of the committee or whatever, the commission or whatever, it is ultimately the president's -- >> you're right. >> you're absolutely right. so he's -- here's a little bit more potential cover for the president. supposing you get a vat, you

know we talked about it, a value added tax, that hits everybody, right? but supposing you rebate some of that treasury revenue and give it back to middle class people and poor people by a rebate system, you could do that. and the president could then turn around and say, well, i really did meet my campaign promise. >> won't that be an interesting thing because you've said that before on this show and i haven't heard it very many other places. >> no. >> in other words, it would be -- again, it would be -- >> it goes everywhere. >> again, it would -- >> it's my idea. you can blame me. >> we will. >> it's a brilliant idea if it comes to be true. but it would be a way of taxing only the rich again. >> yes. it's political cover for the president while raising taxes effectively on everybody but rebating it to a few key constituents. >> here's the thing, for those who think that, well, he's going to blur the screen or muddy the waters and he won't be able to get a clear idea, if republicans can galvanize that message like democrats did to bush 41,

remember, read my lips, no new taxes. it costs president bush his re-election to bill clinton. >> campaign issue. >> so this is -- you know, he's on the record. but what is a tea party fueled by, cutting the deficit, fear about our debt, you could use that. well, how fearful are you, tea partiers? i'm giving you a way to cut the deficit. >> you can look at it both ways. we should look across the atlantic, see what's happening in europe, falling to pieces because of wild entitlement spending, massive deficits. >> destroyed the market yesterday. portugal, greece. and maybe spain. >> you did some reading. >> i did. if i don't read, stuart varney runs over me. >> i don't know why i appear on this program. >> you can appear on your own program, 9:20 on the fox business network. good to see you. >> lovely photo. >> couple of quick headlines for you this morning on a wednesday, civil unrest breaking out in illinois over the immigration bill in another state, arizona. activists are trying to block the deportation of illegal

immigrants from a federal detention center in suburban broadview, the first of what they vowed to be a campaign of civil disobedience. >> what it's done is waken up a lot of people and reminded a lot of us if we don't push as hard as possible for immigration reform, one of the consequences is going to be more racial profiling like is happening right now in arizona. >> it just seems like nobody is listening to what we're trying to say so i think right now we're just angry and frustrated. >> families are being destroyed. families are being ripped apart. we need to stop this. >> two dozen protesters were arrested on disorderly conduct charges as part of a movement energized by arizona's passage of the nation's toughest law against illegal immigrants. it allows police to single out suspected immigrants and demand proof of legal residents. >> meanwhile, a verdict could come down as early as today for the student, college student who allegedly hacked into sarah palin's e-mail account during the 2008 campaign. the jury has already deliberated six hours yesterday, no decision yet. david kernell is accused of using public information about the former governor to figure

out what her password was for her account. got into it. then he posted screen shots of her e-mail on line. the kid faces up to 50 years behind bars. if convicted on all charges. >> all right, a former u.s. air force intelligence officer accused of causing a bomb scare on a flight from paris to atlanta claiming he had explosives in his luggage. it had to be diverted to maine. passengers were forced to stay overnight. >> after the tenseness in the faces of the flight attendants, actually. >> the pilot said let us know after everything was contained. >> the suspect is 26-year-old derek stansbury told officials he had a fake passport. passport was real. sources tell fox newschannel he has been charged with two federal crimes. >> former first lady laura bush going public about that car crash in texas that claimed the life of a high school friend

when she was 17. in her new book "spoken from the heart" she describes losing her faith for many years after she ran a stop sign and slammed into another car. she also detailed the time when she and her husband mysteriously became sick during a g-8 summit in germany. there were concerns they had been poisoned. book in stores next week and laura bush will be joining us here on "fox & friends" soon after. >> wow. that's coming up in may. and the president coming out in the fall. meanwhile, president obama is pushing congress to move forward with immigration reform, as you know. it's likely to cost a lot more than we're being told it will. william is in los angeles with more. william? >> well, brian, you know, washington is a very different place politically than it was in 2006 and 2007 when congress tried to tackle immigration reform. one thing that hasn't changed is america's undocumented population. they remain largely young, male and uneducated. earning basically $15,000 to $30,000 a year working in things like hotels and households,

construction, in gardening. now, why is that income level important? because at that salary bracket, you basically qualify for means tested welfare programs like food stamps and medicaid and ultimately social security. they also qualify for refundable tax credits. that's when the federal government will give people, low income people, money even if they don't pay taxes. >> when you grant amnesty, what you really mean is you're granting a very poorly educated population access to welfare and access to government benefits. the impact of the taxpayer will be simply devastating. >> so studies by the heritage institute which is conservative basically say that if you -- any bill that legalizes 12 million undocumented workers is going to be a net cost to the government of about $90 billion. others say it isn't going to be so much when people start paying fines and ultimately start paying their taxes. but the last time that the c.b.o. scored the immigration

reform bill, they said it would cost taxpayers $30 billion and add $15 billion to the deficit. what would it cost you if we saw a new bill? well, if you go to the fox news.com and look at the taxpayer calculator, what it would show based on that $30 billion figure would cost you if you earn under 15 k about $1.27. if you earn $30,000 to $50,000, $48. if you earn $100,000 to $200,000, cost you $365. and if you earn the highest income bracket, it will cost you $3,623. so there are many reasons congress may tackle immigration and some people believe that we should pass it for family reasons, business reasons, and empathy but one reason you can bet, you guys, is going to be cost. >> absolutely. >> william out in los angeles, thank you very much. did a good job of putting into perspective the things we hear on the news, what it actually costs us. it's a lot. >> thankfully we have him to do

all the math. coming up on our show, two navy seals accused of helping to cover up an assault on a detained terrorist have been acquitted. why is the third navy seal still on trial? >> she stole your heart in the 1 1980's on the big screen. now she's back with a book about her life. she joins us on our breakfast club. she's here live. i believe she just waved. >> meanwhile, the trivia question of the day -- aflac is not

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>> two navy seals have been cleared from charges stemming

from an alleged beating of a terror suspect held in custody and despite that, passing polygraphs as well, navy seal matthew mccabe is still going to face a trial. he would be the third one. is it a waste of time and taxpayer money to keep the prosecution going? joining us right now are the two attorneys for the two acquitted navy seals, greg mccorporal i can is the attorney for petty officer second class jonathan mckeefe and he is the attorney for petty officer first class julio hartas. welcome to both of you down in virginia beach. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> i know it was kind of complicated getting out of iraq and you got back last night at 11:00. they shut down iraqi airspace? >> yes, they did. the government, the minister of transportation shut down the airspace a couple of days ago. and the only airline that was allowed to fly was the iraq national airline which, i don't think anybody would fly. so they shut down the ability of

the government contract carrier, griffin airlines from flying us out. >> well, eventually you did make it and you're sitting there in a studio with your colleague right there. how is mr. hertas? is he -- is he surprised by this verdict or was it like i don't understand why i was on trial in the first place. >> no. he's not surprised by it. he was extremely confident we would get an acquittal. he was very pleased with the outcome. no, i think it's a good opportunity to vindicate yourself. i mean, when he refused the math, the whole point was to get this acquittal. >> now, greg, there's still one fella who is going to still stand trial, matthew mccabe. his trial probably starts on monday. ok, essentially, the prosecution has presented the case they're going to make against him twice already.

both times, the guys have been found not guilty. is it a foregone conclusion this navy seal is going to be innocent as well? >> i certainly would expect so and hope so. i think that's what we will see happen. >> uh-huh. what's going to be different the way the prosecution presents the case against that man, matthew mccabe this time? i understand the terrorist isn't going to be in the trial -- in the jury room, right? >> correct. early on in the proceedings in our case, the government had indicated they did not intend to call the terrorist as a witness. we filed a motion to compel production, the judge granted our motion, but that meant the trial had to be shifted to iraq so we went to iraq so we could get access to the terrorist. i understand petty officer mccabe's attorney has agreed to take the terrorist testimony by way of a deposition which was done last week, so the terrorist will not be before the jury. >> ok. and real briefly before you go, monica, who was it like in the courtroom?

>> what was what like? i'm sorry. >> what were indict unanimousthe courtroom because i understand there were a lot of supporters for the navy seals there. >> well, there were supporters on both sides actually. but the -- the courtroom was actually very quiet and it was fine. there was, you know. >> all right. good enough. we thank you very much for getting up so early and joining us today from virginia beach virginia. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. coming up, what rielle hunter is telling oprah about her affair with john edwards. plus 1980's icon molly ringwald here live. she's walking towards the studio and guess what, molly is a new mom and she's got a book as well. she's live with gretchen next. meanwhile on this date in 1977, glenn campbell had the number one song in america "southern nights." oh, scoot over there a little bit. how 'bout that?

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>> answer to the question of the day, james baker. our next guest spent the 1980's as the reigning teen queen navigating her way through life and love. >> he's not coming. it's ok. i'm going to go. >> alone? >> yeah. i'm not sad about it. i'm not hurt. i mean, i am hurt a little bit. but i know if i don't do it, i'll feel a lot worse. >> actress molly ringwald is here with us on "fox & friends." she has a new book "getting the pretty back, friendship, family and finding the perfect lipstick." good morning to you. >> good morning. >> it's interesting, i was reading a review, they say that the book is part style guide, entertaining bible, part mommy handbook and part memoir. how the heck did you fit that in

this little book right here? >> i don't know. >> it's a very interesting book. we were chatting during the commercial, i find it very creative. it has color inside of it. it has pictures inside of it. even has a recipe. >> very, very good one by my friend. i really wanted it to be really fun and colorful and, you know, i knew i didn't want to write -- it's not time for my autobiography because i feel like i'm half way through my life. so i really wanted to write a book that just really fun to read and, you know, it's all about being a woman. and, you know, it's in nine chapters which i'm not j.d.salinger and there's nine stories. style chapter, food chapter, motherhood chapter. everything that goes into being a woman. >> now that you are a mama in real life to three young children, it's so fascinating because you were this teen idol growing up. now on tv, you play a mom to a teenager. >> yes. >> how has that been for you? is it sort of like living out your real life now? >> well, not exactly because i'm a mom but i'm a mom to

9-month-old twins and a 6-year-old so i'm not quite at the teenage years yet. it's not really on my radar but it sort of gives me a chance to know what i'm -- what i'm in for. >> me, too. >> you know? >> the interesting thing is so many child actors end up in trouble. what was your secret? because we were just reporting in the last month, you know, another one dying. what was your success? >> well, i think i have a really great family and, you know, they were always there for me and they were very nurturing and, you know, there was a lot of communication which i think is incredibly important. and i just have a really strong survival instinct. and i knew that i wanted to do too much in my life to get sidetracked by all that. >> and yet, you say that after you turned 40, you felt a lot of angst in your life. >> well, i really had a lot of angst sort of leading up to 40 which is what gave me the idea to write the book in the first place because i wanted a book that was fun and stylish and inspirational about that time in my life. but leading up to being 40 it

was a lot worse than actually being 40. so far, my 40's have been great. >> what do you think about your own kids? i'm not sure you want to get them into acting or do you? >> well, if they choose to do that later on, you know, after they graduate from harvard, then that's great. >> predetermined that's where they're going. >> no, i'll support them in whatever they decide to do. i want to make sure it's their decision, they try everything out and then decide and i'll support them in whatever they do. >> you seem to be such a solid person. and a lot of times people have this perception of actresses in hollywood as being, you know, out there a little bit. what was it besides your family? >> i think my family and i think books, too. you know, i grew up in a very bookish family and, you know, i've always been able to go to books and in times of need and solace. and, you know, and i really do have to credit my family, i think they've been really a huge -- >> the rock in so many people's lives. the new book is "getting the

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>> gretchen: we hope you're having a great wednesday so far. april 28, 2010. thanks for sharing your time today. goldman sachs, they got a grilling, an r rated grilling. >> how much of that (bleep) deal did you sell to your clients after june 22, 2007? >> gretchen: but did goldman do anything criminal? donald trump here live to weigh in. >> steve: people not too happy with mcdonald's happy meals. the government is trying to ban the toys inside the happy meal. is this another example of the government telling us what you can do and what you can't do and try to get away with it legally? we'll talk about that. >> brian: stunning announcement from sandra bullock.

we learned she has a baby boy. wow. that caught me by surprise. i was blind sided. our slogan comes from jim in texas. the coyotes in the great state of texas are on the run because they heard on "fox & friends" the government is backing a gun. >> they don't know what they want. they don't know what they have. they have no idea what they're doing. >> brian: thank you very much. >> gretchen: is that donald trump? >> steve: that's donald trump! when he's not talking about firing people, he's talking about "fox & friends." in the final hour, he'll be one of our guests, along with dr. travis stock. he's not wearing scrubs. i almost didn't recognize him. >> gretchen: he's on the show, the doctor. he was once upon a time on "the bachelor." then you have kristen bell, an actress who has been in a ton of movies and she'll be joining us. >> brian: you two will have is a

vote. i would like all three of those to be our motto. we don't know what they're doing. i mean. >> gretchen: that's a really good selling point. >> brian: watch us, we don't know what we're doing. >> gretchen: some people say that about us. >> brian: sadly to our face. >> steve: you never know -- >> gretchen: they have no idea what they're doing. >> steve: on capitol hill yesterday, you would almost get the impression that members of congress were thinking, what are they doing down on wall street? you listen to all the testimony, they made it very clear, including lloyd blankfein, the ceo, we didn't break the rules. ethically, a little challenge. plus, foul talking. for a little while, you would think some of the goldman e-mail were written by joe biden. listen to this. >> boy, that timberwolf was one

(bleep). how much of that (bleep) deal did you sell to your clients after june 22, 2007? you knew it was a (bleep) deal. should goldman sachs be trying to sell the (bleep)? next is an e-mail july 3, still after (bleep). you don't think it's junk or crap, you don't think it's (bleep). you think that goldman sachs ought to be selling that to customers? >> gretchen: i thought this was like a reality tv show. i couldn't stop watching this thing. i don't know if it was the salty language. i just don't know what it was, but you had interesting characters, like fabulous fab with the french access. >> brian: he's by far the number one character. i did not do anything wrong. >> gretchen: come on, it made capitol hill entertaining yesterday for once. >> brian: in the e-mail, he said --

>> steve: fabulous fab? >> he boasted he had managed to dump some of the most worthless securities to widows and orphans. the sub prime borrowers will not last too long. oh, boy, isn't that compassion? the whole building is about to collapse any time now. the only potential survivor, fabulous fab. >> steve: you were listening to the testimony, you realized, wait a minute, is it just me did goldman sachs sound like they're working against their own clients where the clients would do one thing, they would buy up and goldman sachs would buy down? i thought from a theatrical point of you, i loved the code pink people. they held up signs throughout the thing and occasionally during the testimony, the code pink women would be behind them, the goldman sachs people, and start hissing. >> brian: i have no use for those people. i don't care what -- >> gretchen: it's interesting they're allowed inside of there. that's what i kept wondering.

>> steve: as long as you're orderly. >> gretchen: there were a couple of shoutouts. the other thing, the whole thing doesn't fit together. help me out. a lot of the people who work at goldman sachs donated to president obama during the campaign. a lot of the people currently sitting in his administration used to work at goldman. a lot of people at goldman support his financial reform program. so why are they on the hook? i don't get it. usually when you support the president, then you're not on the hook. so this is why it's good reality tv, folks. you never know what's going to happen next. >> steve: they need a poster boy. and goldman is a poster boy because the president has been pushing for this financial reform. they had another vote yesterday to see whether or not they could start the debate on it and one democrat sided with all the republicans and so they stopped it in its tracks once again. >> brian: they didn't even need ben nelson. they stopped it because 41 are holding strong and because of that, you have people -- the president of the united states beside himself saying why can't

i get a debate going? we all know a debate is going on. senator shelby is meeting regularly and now they're trying to work out something comprehensive. but everybody is starting to read the bill. they're seeing stifling things in this bill and things people should be worried about. an agency that will be able to look into your documents, your background, your credit report, your mortgages, maybe they don't want that information, but they have access to it. shouldn't we slow down and find out exactly what we're getting into? today, by the way, in the "new york times" and i'm sure other places, the republicans published their ideas of financial reform. should that play a role? >> gretchen: yesterday the president basically called out the republicans, saying they were doing all the stonewalling. >> today for the second time in 24 hours, senate republicans unanimously blocked efforts to even begin debating reform. i'm not even asking them to vote for the bill. i just want to let them debate

it. you know, you've learned these senate rules are complicated, so they won't even let it get on the floor to be debated. it's one thing to oppose reform, but to oppose just even talking about reform in front of the american people and having a legitimate debate, that's not right. [ applause ] >> steve: it's interesting. in national review today, senator from nebraska said negotiations were going fine until about ten days ago and then the white house injected itself into it and things got amped up in a partisan way. he said the big problem, the big mess right now is that the democrats are pushing for a wall street banks to spin off the derivatives operations, which $500 trillion worth of derivative business around the world. meanwhile, the republicans want to work with the democrats they say on the big ideas like managing risk. >> gretchen: let's listen to chris dodd who is one of the instrumental people in trying to put this thing together.

>> i feel pretty optimistic that even though we don't have an agreement on these other issue, the fact that we've come to closure are almost -- or almost closure, too big too fail should allow us to move and get the kind of support to proceed. tomorrow there will be another -- at least one vote tomorrow and i presume another vote on thursday. >> brian: the problem is, too, most people say we're going to get something done. then i read this morning that bob corker says i think it's too big a divide. we are far less optimistic today than earlier in the week. that's a republican who says i'm on the inside and i don't like what i see. >> gretchen: we'll continue to debate it. a couple headlines. setting the oil on fire. the coast guard considering doing that today to the giant oil slick that's threatening to reach the gulf coast. 42,000 gallons flowing from the rig each and every day. right now, the slick already 80 miles long. experts say this spill could be a bigger threat than the exxon

valdez mess. osama bin laden surprised? according to one of his former associate, he had no idea america would retaliate so strongly after september 11. he never expected the world trade towers to fall, so he really didn't plan for the massive response that we launched. mississippi governor healy barbour asking president obama to declare two areas national disasters. hundreds of homes completely destroyed, many of those homeowners, unfortunately, have no insurance. sandra bullock making two stunning announce ams this morning. first, that she has adopted a baby boy. revealing to people magazine she and her estranged husband, jesse james, adopted the boy, 3 months old in january. his name is louis and he was born in new orleans. this complicates things. also making it official that she is filing for divorce. she plans to raise the baby by

herself. those are your headlines. >> steve: let's talk about this, we've been telling you in arizona they have -- last friday, the governor signed a new green card bill where if a police officer has a suspicion -- i think the guy who does not speak english without the driver's license with the ten guys in the back of the van, could be illegal in this country, you can actually ask for documentation. the president of the united states yesterday, while he was also talking about wall street reform, he was also talking about fixing the border. now he's got a plan. listen. >> make them register, make them pay a fine, make them learn english. [ applause ] make them take responsibility for the fact that they broke the law. you make them get in the back of the line, but you also say, okay. if you do it the right way, then you have a chance to become an american citizen. [ applause ] if we have that kind of

comprehensive approach, then we can once again be a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. >> brian: at one point that was a plan that john mccain kind of liked. that was then. this is now. john mccain feels differently because things got worse. he's also in a very tough campaign. senator john mccain. >> the arizona legislature and governor acted for one reason and that is because the federal government did not act and carry out its responsibilities to secure our borders. the violence on the border continues to go up and every state and every citizen has the right to have its borders secured and live in the conditions of safety. >> gretchen: the interesting follow-up from this, mexico warning travelers now not to maybe go to arizona. san francisco also, the city banning its workers from traveling to arizona. how do you do that? i don't know how you do that? >> brian: the giants won't play the diamondbacks?

>> gretchen: eric holder say he may sue the state of arizona as a result of this law. it's getting dicey inform my favorite is from the congressmen from arizona saying boycott our state. until we fix this. that's silly. >> brian: coming up, a town trying to ban the toy from your happy meal. why is the government trying to mess with the kid's toy? can they do this? peter johnson, junior, here to save the day. >> gretchen: she's the bell of the ball. actress kristen bell is here live.

the happy heel not so happy. one california town, lawmakers in santa clara are bunning promotional toy give aways in an effort to combat childhood obesity. our next guest says it's like

prohibition all over again. who is our next guest? you know him as peter johnson, junior. a totally different name when he's not on camera. they went in and busted up vats of beer and cases of whiskey. there we go. what do we have? lawlessness. are we going to have children stampeding through the streets of santa clara county because they can't get the happy meal? it sounds funny at first. it's serious, though. you know why? it's based on a concept called parents' patriat, latin term, means father of the country. people in santa clara think that they're the father of those children, that there is a mother of those children, that are buying those happy meals and so when government goes wild, and decides we're really important. we know better than you as parents, that's the kind of laws that they're looking to pass in may. >> brian: 'cause they know that kids want this food and that's why they put the swings in front of those restaurants, so kids can go mom, can i go in there?

and than, they pick that, maybe a mcdonald's over burger king. >> santa clara is saying, they're trying to suck these children in and make them adicked to salt and fat and sugar and caffeine. you can't buy a coca-cola under this new law for a child and hope to get a little toy. i love those toys. those toys are fantastic. but it's a big issue because it says we're giving away our rights as parents, as custodians. this notion of parents president patriat, meaning in place of the parent, it means you forfeited your right as a care taker, as a parent, as a custodian of a child, you've been negligent, you're a bad parent. what's the next step, brian? is the next step that if you give that child that kind of food, we're going to sue you? if you give that child that kind of food, we're going to fine you? some of it's bad food, but next step after that, are we going to

take your child away? are we going to put you in jail. >> brian: what about business as soon as what about a business to lure in wants to do something like that, whether it's give away cookies? now you're getting involved in business. because i cannot give away a toy. >> listen, we need and you have the a team, marc siegel and all these smart doctors, they know what we -- we don't need fats or sugars or salts. but the issue becomes should government be deciding what you're going to eat? should government be deciding what you can sell and if you sell it, we're going to fine you $1,000, we're going to bring a lawsuit against you and going down the slippery slope, are we going to start taking kids away from parents because they say your kids are too fat? >> brian: should we prevent them from getting happy meals because it connotes something too positive? that's the first time we've seen

1920s video ever. it was not live. thank you. >> thank you. >> brian: texas governor rick perry and his dog attacked bay coyote while on a jog. but have no fear, the governor has a gun. so the dog is okay. the coyote isn't. the doctor is in. former bachelor is here with his prescription of how to be the ceo of your own health. i see you.

>> brian: $200,000, that's how much the government fined southwest airlines for violating rules on kicking passengers off oversold flights. it happened to me. the airline failed to promptly pay bumped passengers or give

them written notices of their rights. 14, that's how many mountains this woman scaled. she became the first woman to scale the world's 14 highest peaks, so she claims. and one shot, that's what it took for governor perry to kill a coyote while out for a jog. go find the carcass, steve. >> steve: we have to. there are tons of health-related web sites out there and our next guest warns you, you just have to know where to look for the right information, otherwise you could be putting your own health at risk, if you don't get the right stuff. >> gretchen: you know him, he's the former bachelor and he's also one of the hosts of the doctors, he's the author of the new book "the doctor is in." good morning to youers travis. >> good morning, thanks for having me. >> gretchen: we're hearing about your whirlwind life. you fly out to l.a. to shoot your doctor's show and live in nashville. how did you have time to write a book? >> i have the best of both worlds. i've been working on this book for the last year.

when you're in the er, people say, doctor, i wish i had done things differently, but there is so much misinformation out there. so many fad diets. people are confused. so this book is really 20 -- 20 years ago before i knew anything, all the things i wish i had known. >> steve: let's say, my shoulder is starting to hurt right here, you google, shoulder hurts when i raise my left arm or my right arm, and suddenly something pops up and you think, oh, my goodness, i've got cancer, or whatever it says. >> brian: or i want to lose a few pounds, google diet, and you'll come up with a list of thousands of fad diets that may harm you. or supplements? how do i know if i'm taking something that's hurting me or helping my health? in this book, i really focus on evidence-based things that i practice in my own life because, again, i would love for people to prevent illness before it happens. people don't realize this. i use this phrase, ceo of your own health. you have to become your own health guru. >> gretchen: no offense to to te

two men, but isn't it true that women think about their health more and prod men to go to the doctor? >> you're the ceo of your own health and your family's health. we depend on you as men to say, you need to go in. i had patients come to the er, it's been a husband who had a heart attack and the wife says, i've been trying to get him to come in, or things that are healthier for him. he won't go along with it. what i've done in this book is i've tried to make it this really easy to follow, enjoy life, indulge. it doesn't have to be some fad diet. it's a lifestyle. it can be fun. >> gretchen: thank you. so glad to know that. >> steve: so when you're out looking for a good web site, you can always go to "fox & friends" and we'll redirect you to the sites that you suggest. you like puff me.gov, americanheart.gov, and diabetes.org and others.

>> medline.gov. again, one of the things we also do, we have the doctor's tv.com where we redirect people to sources of reliable information because in the end, if you just go on-line and maybe someone is trying to sell you something, they'll tell you what you want to hear, it's always so magical, what we're going -- we're going to remove all your toxins in one day, that stuff can kill you. >> gretchen: information overload. i can't let you go before i ask you this. the last line on the card in preparation for you said, sex is good for the heart. could you focus on that, please? >> as you guys know, on the doctor we talk about things that are good for you. and believe it or not, sex is one of those things, safe sex with your spouse. it's good for your heart and good for your stress levels. >> steve: it's good for selling books. the book is called "the doctor is in." travis stork. why aren't you an obstetrician? >> gretchen: coming up, remember how we were promised heads would roll at the sec after workers

were caught watching porn at work? you're not going to like the update to this one. >> steve: oprah's interview with rielle hunter, we've got clips from that interview. >> gretchen: star power here on "fox & friends." actress kristen bell. then donald trump is going to join us live as well. stick around.

>> steve: tomorrow on o's show, she's got an exclusive. she sat down with rielle hunter who has had an affair with john edwards. >> brian: never heard anything about that. >> steve: i know. here is a little snippet with some oprah and rielle kind of explaining the whole sordid affair. >> everyone i was close to, who knew all the facts and knew the truth, said please, don't do that interview. elizabeth really wanted him to do that interview. she wanted him to say you got to get out in front of it. you got to say the truth and speak the truth. and she didn't know the truth. so it's like, you can't do the interview and not speak the whole truth. >> so you said she didn't know the truth. she knew there was the affair, she -- >> she didn't know 'til after the interview. he came clean with her after that interview. >> brian: wait. so during the interview, elizabeth was finding out for the first time. so when she sent him out there, she did not know that he was

going to not deny it? >> gretchen: i don't know. i can't keep it straight. this is what oprah was most surprised about after she interviewed rielle. >> she doesn't think that she's a home wrecker, doesn't think of herself as a home wrecker and she does not think she played a key role in breaking up the edwards' marriage. >> steve: seems like a home wrecker to me. >> gretchen: it takes to to tango. >> brian: it was the tango on "dancing with the stars." >> gretchen: was it? >> brian: some guy got so angry, he took his shirt off and threw it at the judge. >> gretchen: thank you. in washington right now, the national fiscal summit, the headliners are the co-chair of the president's debt commission. former president bill clinton and alan simpson will speak this afternoon. conference speak railroads primarily fiscal conservatives and are expected to recommend a spending cap if the federal deficit reach has certain level. >> brian: fox news channel just learning the former air force intelligence officer accused of

causing a bomb scare on a flight has been charged with two federal crimes. the flight had to be diverted to maine after 26-year-old derek stansbury told the flight attendants he had a bomb in his luggage. the father of the suspect speaking out now. >> regardless of what was said on the plane, the safety of the passengers come first. hopefully everything will get ironed out and he'll get to come home. he is a good boy. >> brian: did serve his country. he also told officials he had a fake passport. no bomb was found and the passport was real. >> steve: remember the securities and exchange commission employees caught using government computers to look at dirty pictures at work? turns out not one was fired. 28 employees were under investigation. eight left on their own and the rest were either suspended, reprimanded or given a written warning. aha. >> gretchen: forget the gym and start laughing? a new study says laughter has

similar effects on the body as pumping iron in the gym. researchers say laughing can not only improve your appetite, but can enhance your mood, reduce stress hormone, boost immune system and lower blood pressure. the study out of california. got to like that, huh? just laugh a little bit instead of going to the gym. >> brian: that explains why the comedians are so fit. >> steve: she's well-known from her roles in blockbusters like marshall, "veronica mars "and the voice from" gossip girls. kristen bell joins us live. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: you were in "when in rome." >> yes. >> brian: you and i have something in common. we're both sex symbols. and i know how i dealt with it. >> i don't keep that in my perspective. i think it's too awkward to

think about it. i don't wake up in the morning and go, i'm a sex symbol. >> brian: people look at you like that. >> i don't know. i don't think about that. i just kind of am who i am. >> steve: brian actually has had a business card that says, brian kilmeade -- >> brian: just to get it over with. >> i have it, yeah. >> steve: with the phone number on the back. >> gretchen: there is a fox news alert because you decided to go brunette. >> i did. i went brunette for my last movie and it was a lot of fun. i felt kind of like a vixen. >> steve: wait a minute. is that you with cher? >> yes. she plays the owner of a burlesque club. >> steve: are you kind of a young stripper? >> burlesque dancer. there is a difference. it's much more about the art of the tease. >> brian: you're choosing right now not to talk about your rivalry with christina aguilera

in the movie. is that correct? >> i have a rivalry with her? no. i love her. in the movie, yes. we got to really have cat fights. but in real life, she's adorable. >> gretchen: you are engaged? >> i am. >> gretchen: but you say that you want to have a private ceremony. you don't want a big shindig? >> yeah. i don't know. i think when we get down to planning it, it won't necessarily be anything i'll put on display for anybody or even to talk about. i kind of feel like i deserve to have that, just be for me. >> brian: the crew is hoping they would get an invite. >> they'll definitely be there. >> brian: we're just not doing. >> i'm sorry about that. >> steve: tell us a little bit about dress for success. >> well, that's why i'm here, kind of in support of marshall's has given a generous donation of a bunch of their high end designer clothes to dress for success, which is a program that i love and support, which kind of helps disadvantaged women get back into the workplace and allow themselves their own economic independence.

>> steve: give them some clothes to wear when they're looking for a job. >> and it makes a big difference. i know that what you wear can have a huge effect on your confidence level, your insecurities and they have programs for career skill building and also for kind of support groups and then they give you a wardrobe to wear and you feel confident. >> steve: we're looking at pictures of you. >> why are we looking at pictures of me? >> steve: when photographers are barking stuff, what do they say to get to you pose like that? >> oh, my god, anything. >> steve: really? >> they scream anything -- >> steve: like what? >> i don't know. your shoe is off, or look over here, or kristen, remember me? a lot of remember mes. i wish there was a mute button kind of. >> gretchen: that's why nothing brian says stays with you. >> that's absolutely right. >> brian: you know when i see you at the super bowl, it's major event. kristen, remember me. bonk. >> gretchen: a little birdie told me you might be a country music fan. is that true?

>> i am. kind of a recent one. >> gretchen: you were at the country music awards? >> i was. i presented, as well as my good buddy cher, she presented. >> steve: my good buddy cher. are you and cher now buddies? >> yes. i am proud to say that we are. she's everything that you want her to be and more. she's very funny and kind of cynical and very into the work. she's always been one of my favorite actress, but working alongside her, she's kind of nice to everyone around her and exactly what you want her to be. >> brian: i met her one time and i don't think she really liked me. >> she didn't? did you hand her your card? >> brian: i should have. >> gretchen: kristen, so great to meet you. good luck with dress for success. >> thank you so much. >> steve: straight ahead, a setback for bright michaels, the latest on the rock beer's condition from his tv boss.

>> brian: you may think you're walk ago seasoned tap dancer at work. but this little dancer is just 7 years old. tapping sensation luke spring is here live this morning. >> gretchen: i love that child.

>> brian: watching brett michaels on the celebrity apprentice, you would never imagine that he would be in critical condition from a brain hemorrhage so soon after shooting those episodes. this past week he was at 24 hour fitness. joining us to talk about this is the host of the show, donald trump, about michael's condition and more. welcome back, donald. >> good morning. >> brian: i'm watching this sunday. this has been a great season for you. i'm watching brett michaels in the studio doing celebrity fitness. he seemed in really good shape

and great spirits. how shocked were you about the brain hemorrhage? >> the whole thing is unbelievable. he was in such good shape, or at least seemingly, and he was really a great character. when i first met him, i wasn't sure whether or not he was going to make it at all. and then as you got to know him, you got to like him. everybody liked this guy. everybody liked him. he probably worked harder than anybody else and he was really in good shape and this is what happened. >> gretchen: it's really tragic because now this morning, word that he may have suffered some sort of a setback now. word yesterday was maybe he would come out of this, which would be amazing because rarely do people survive this, donald. >> well, that's what i heard. i hear very rarely do they even get to the hospital let alone survive it. so he's going through a lot. he's a great guy and we hope he makes it. >> steve: out of curiousity, how do you handle this with the series. >> it's probably never happened before because we're right in the middle of it. the ratings are through the roof and it's been really a great show. brett really helped make it a great show. he's in for another few episodes

where it's just sort of interesting to see what happens. to think this could happen sort of in the middle of this show is amazing. again, that's unimportant compared to brett. i hope he gets well. >> brian: the other thing is, do you think he could have been hit by some scenery at some point? >> he did the tony awards and i've seen it and i guess you've all seen it over and over again where he got whacked and he got hit really hard. that was a year ago. so that sounds like a long time, but with brains, you see boxers, what happens to them? over a period of time, something like that, i guess, could cause it. nobody really knows what caused it. i've gotten to know him very well. he's a sweet guy. he's a great guy. and i hope he gets better. >> gretchen: we all do. donald, let's change topics if we can because i don't know if you were tube side yesterday to catch some of that testimony on capitol hill with goldman sachs and members of congress. the big question today, no doubt they were put on the spot yesterday and having to answer a lot of the questions.

what the american public wants to know is whether or not goldman sachs did anything criminal or were they just being brazen and greedy bankers? your thoughts. >> well, they were being very brazen and the young guy was carried away with himself because he made nice big fees and he was trying to impress his girlfriend and he looked like a jerk. but the fact is, if you come down too hard, you're going to lose a lot of business to europe, a lot of business to asia, the investment banking business, and all of a sudden you won't have the kind of financial clout that you have right now. so there is a very fine line as to what they can do. i know lloyd blankfein, he's wonderful man, a good man. he works hard. he's a brilliant guy and he's being put on the spot and the politicians are having a lot of fun with him. they're having a great time just knocking the hell out of him. i understand that every time one of the politicians would ask a question, when they weren't asking a question, half of them would leave the room. they didn't care. so they're having a good time. a very important thing.

the fact is, we've got to keep banking in this country. it's going to -- there is a fine line. something should be done, but they've got to be very careful. >> steve: and donald, in particular, in new york because this is the capital of finance for the world. i've been reading in the daily news, they're worried and mayor bloomberg is worried if you come down too hard on wall street, you're going to completely destroy a lot of taxes that pay for teachers and firemen and all sorts of stuff and before you know it, some of those big firms will go to london and hong kong and wall street would be a ghost town. >> that's exactly correct. again, these politician, most didn't know what they were talking about. they wanted to get some air time. so we have to be very, very careful. >> brian: i'm sure you're looking into that. but that's not something you do on wall street. one thing you are concerned about is this country's debt and that's why the president of the united states commission add debt commission. ten democrats, eight republicans. in the end, to reduce our federal deficit. would you be surprised, donald

trump, if taxes went up? >> well, i think expenses could come down a lot more than taxes going up. taxes are already high in this country, throughout the country. i think expenses could come down long before taxes going up. if you look at what's happening in new jersey where a new governor, governor kristy is cutting the hell out of expenses. expenses in this country have to come down. >> gretchen: right. but the likelihood of that happening with ten democrats sitting on that panel, donald, and eight republicans, maybe not so much. i want to get your thoughts on this vat, and i know it's double to say vat tax, value added tax that europe has seen. do you think that's coming to america? >> well, there is a lot of talk about it. this way it distributes it and spreads it and it's a big, big step because it would totally revolutionize the taxing system. >> gretchen: are you for it or against it? >> i would like to see the taxing system stay the way it is now with adjustments. >> steve: nobody knows real estate better than you.

are things turning around or are we still kind of scraping the bottom? >> it's a great time to buy real estate. you know, two years ago, three years ago, you asked me the same question, i said don't buy, prices are too high. when i give a speech, i say, don't buy, don't buy. this is a great time to buy real estate. >> brian: from you? >> i've been buying a lot of it. i hope i'm right. i'll let you know in a couple years. i may be wrong, in which case we'll be speak not guilty three years. this is a great time to buy real estate. >> steve: donald, we thank you for joining us on the phone. >> thank you very much. >> brian: we'll be watching celebrity apprentice on sunday. thanks. >> gretchen: you want to stick around for this. this is the cutest thing you've seen in a long time. this tap dancer, tearing up the stage, just 7 years old and he's performing for us next. >> brian: keep at it, luke. >> steve: actually that's how bill hemmer broke into show business. >> indeed. have you seen the video? good morning to you. great show this morning. in a moment here, here is the

twist for you -- mexico now warning its citizens about traveling to arizona and now eric holder may take on this new arizona law. we'll look at that today. and also today, they think they're 99.9% sure they found noah's ark. can't make it up. we'll see you in ten minutes on america's newsroom.

you're in for a special treat. he's the youngest tap dancing sensation around. tiny tapper luke spring, just 7 years old. he not only performs solo, but taps in a trio with his two sisters. this morning, luke will perform for us live. >> steve: excellent. they join us from the commonwealth of virginia. that's luke right there, standing next to his mother, jill. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> brian: when did you realize

that luke had something special? >> steve: dancing feet! >> when he was little, he had a lot of rhythm. he used to play the drums and then he was always at the studio because his older sisters danced. so he found a pair of tap shoes at the studio and started tapping. >> steve: there is videotape, at an event, one of the judges looked at him and said, oh, my goodness, where did he learn how to do that? did he learn just by watching his sisters? is that how you learned? you watch your big sister dancing at the studio, next thing you know you tried it yourself? was it hard? >> gretchen: i have a feeling his big sisters do all the talking for him. is that how it works? >> when you get to know him, he doesn't stop talking. >> brian: in fact, we're like that. luke, what are your thoughts when you watch yourself on video pretty good?

>> yeah. >> gretchen: do you believe that's you? >> no. >> gretchen: no. >> brian: is there any way you can't recreate that magic? could you dance for us right here? >> yes. >> brian: when? >> now. >> gretchen: i've been waiting all morning. >> steve: ladies and gentlemen, here is the 7-year-old tap dancing sensation, luke spring!

>> steve: big finish! yeah! very nice! >> gretchen: you know what i love about, he's so serious, isn't he? >> steve: concentrating. >> hope you never rent op the first floor from luke. >> steve: a little more with luke in two minutes. you're watching "fox & friends."

>> gretchen: i don't know how anyone is going to top luke tomorrow. we'll have senator richard

shelby as one of the instrumental people in the financial reform bill. >> steve: also, lou dobbs and brook bush. from "dancing with the stars," we have young luke spring from virginia. he's been dancing -- did you see him before the break? he's going to show us something. >> brian: can you show us that thing where you're almost falling down? >> gretchen: what's this called? >> trenches. let's try it. >> brian: how did we do? >> brian: a lot of people want to know what we talk about on the breaks. >> steve: we're going to continue the conversation as it is with luke in the after the show show. so log on right now to www.foxandfriends.com, also